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Sydney_Iron 10:05 Sat Mar 16
Big Ange sticking up for overseas fans

He maybe Spurs but he has a point.


https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/39738217/tottenham-postecoglou-blaming-tourists-ticket-price-rise-harsh

Asked whether Premier League clubs are prioritising attracting "tourists" or "plastic fans" who are willing to pay the most to attend a game, the Australian coach told a news conference: "See that's really harsh.

"I'll tell you why: Because I'm probably plastic and tourist because I was coming from the other side of the world really passionate about football and if I could get access to see a Premier League game, that was the world to me.

"So, to label people plastic or tourist, I don't think that's fair just because people live on the other side of the world. This football club has supporters all over the world, has supporters all over the UK that don't always get access to the games of people who live here.

Leonard Hatred 12:12 Sat Mar 16
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A reasonable point.

"Plastics" refers to tourists etc who aren't particularly arsed about what team they're watching but just fancy a day out at the football.

Nowt wrong with that either.

I've done it myself in foreign countries.

Leonard Hatred 12:16 Sat Mar 16
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I've even bought a half and half scarf.

Roma v Lyon, Europa League game.

Used it to decorate my campervan.

What have you got to say about that then?

joe royal 12:34 Sat Mar 16
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I went to Denmark to watch Arsenal V Galatasaray in 99. Quite possibly the most boring game I’ve ever seen .

Was the year when those two Leeds fans were murdered. Atmosphere was a bit tense.

Iron Duke 12:39 Sat Mar 16
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Tourists just want to get a game in as part of a break. I’ve gone to games in Italy, Spain and Germany for that purpose. Have a few drinks and watch a European team. Nowt wrong with that.

Plastics are generally glory hunting wankers who have no true passion for the club. They support Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea, because they have the best players and win the most trophies. I have no respect for these people and avoid talking about football with them.

If you’re Norwegian or Australian and support West Ham, that is a bit different. You have picked the underdog, who is often shit and sometimes fighting relegation, but occasionally gives you joy. Begrudgingly I would put plastic Spurs fans somewhere in this category. They could follow a much more successful team but have chosen the perennial chokers instead. To be honest, I respect them more than the typical deluded Spurs fan.

Mex Martillo 12:43 Sat Mar 16
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The problem isn't the overseas fans, it's the putting prices to take advantage.

Leonard Hatred 12:45 Sat Mar 16
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Duke

On that subject, on the day of the Europa Conference final I was in Barcelona, so sought out the Barcelona Hammers' pub.

I assumed they would all be expat English people, but they were all Spanish, apart from the "leader", a Welsh bloke.

I was the only Englishman in there.

Being from, and living in Barcelona, and choosing to support West Ham is a bit odd.

nerd 1:00 Sat Mar 16
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Only like going to watch sport abroad like the NFL or la liga game . The moaning about it ,is hypocritical. The British are the worst for it in other countries.

WHU(Exeter) 1:26 Sat Mar 16
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I go to a couple games with my girlfriend when we stay in Istanbul.

Third division and below games, as to watch games in the top 2 tiers, you need a Pasolig membership thing, which I can’t be bothered with.

Friend of ours over there has a son who plays for one of the Beşiktaş 17-18 teams. Went along with him to watch them play last Saturday. Only about 70 people watching, but they had flares going off throughout the game and firecrackers scaring the shit out of the linesman. Opposition player got sent off, their management went so mental that the officials refused to leave the pitch and 3 police cars turned up. All for a youth game…

brundal 1:40 Sat Mar 16
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In the BML against Burnley there were a large number of tourists even one wearing flip flops, at the old ground the BML was always the hard core of our fan base doesn’t seem like that now.

El Scorchio 2:02 Sat Mar 16
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I will often seek out if there’s a game on anywhere convenient when I go on holiday - not necessarily football- which I suspect a lot of us do. Which I guess makes a lot of us day trippers.

I actually very rarely or even ever see day trippers in the area in which I am- always the same people week in week out.

violator 2:14 Sat Mar 16
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Football Weekends is a cracking magazine

Mex Martillo 2:39 Sat Mar 16
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Leonard Hatred 12:45 Sat Mar 16, what pub is that for the Barcelona Hammers? I've watched a few West Ham games in Barcelona and would like to try to meet up with them.

Very true Nerd, I travel quite a bit and if there is a game on I go along. Weirdest game I've seen was Gothenburg v Singapore, Gothenburg lost and a lot of Singaporeans misstook me as a Gothemburg supporter and wanted to chat about the game. Vasco de Gama was the best, crowd and atmosphere reminded me of watching West Ham in the 70s-80s. Really enjoyed that.

nychammer 2:42 Sat Mar 16
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English football over here now becoming very popular and our PL games are accessible on cable at no or very low cost.

With Foreign travel much more frequent than in the 70s / 80s I hear of a lot of people are going to the UK and taking in games while they are there.

joe royal 2:45 Sat Mar 16
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Mex, the pub is called Michael Collins, it’s spitting distance from the big spiky cathedral thing..

joe royal 2:47 Sat Mar 16
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https://michaelcollinspubs.com/

arsene york-hunt 3:17 Sat Mar 16
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Nothing wrong with being a tourist and going to a game. Done it myself in various countries. What is wrong are all these cunts who say they are Liverpool, or Man Utd fans that have never been near the place. Plastic is not nearly offensive enough a word for these scum.

J.Riddle 3:24 Sat Mar 16
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Flaminco v Sao Paulo and Brazil v someone? at the Maracana was the only time, tbh I was dragged along by others who would one day post it on a football forum, had no interest and didn't really enjoy it. I don't watch any football other than us, only if England gets into knockout stages of WC or Euros.

Swiss. 3:48 Sat Mar 16
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If I was a plastic I had great memories of 2 instances. Firstly when I was living and working in Lyon 2000-2001. Loved watching them in in the CL at their old Stadium De Gerland. Great atmosphere. I still regard them asa my 3rd team.


Secondly when I was living in Stockholm 2004-2007 right next to Stadion the home of Djurgårdens FC. Summer evening football was great there. Their fans had a hard core reputation even if the ground was in the richest part of Sweden. Will always be my 2nd team.

RBshorty 3:57 Sat Mar 16
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Old Man yell’s. “GET OFF MY LAWN.!”

Leonard Hatred 4:50 Sat Mar 16
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My best football tourism experience was Boca Juniors v Colon (snigger) at the Bombanera.

Amazing stadium.

But weird having no away fans though.

Panathanaikos vas quite lively as well.

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